Are we tired or have we won, or what should we do next?

David Davis

Is this a lull in the pace of battle, or has the Enemy Class retreated under cover of stubble-fires while our backs were turned for a pee, or….

…are we all just a bit tired?

Or have we run out of things to say about the badness of this government, or…

…should we just “shift target to next ahead”? (And what is that thing? Do we even know?)

Sharpe’s Opinion has an interesting comment thread on this exact subject, so do go read the whole article and replies, some from major bloggers like Guido Fawkes and The Devil.

  • I think a lot of bloggers have basicly burnt themselves out with everything that has built up in the last few years and then hit the main stream (thanks to bloggers such as yourself) within the last six months.

    I reckon more bloggers will start to specialize within their known fields, that way at least they won’t burn themselves out and people may find it easier to see behind the govermental smoke screens.

  • Well I would suggest, in lack of anything else to do, that you read up on economy and start preparing for the coming depression. Or that you start to fight the ever increasing regulations to the Internet. The victory is never won, new breads of stupid humans pop up every day.

  • I blog mainly to vent at what I read that infuriates me, and since there’s rarely a day goes by when something doesn’t piss me off it’s only when I’m simply too busy doing other things. Of course, I also have two countries to blog about so between them they’re very reliable 😉 And sure as hell nothing of any real substance has been won. The fact that a few more people have been made aware that there is actually a fight going on is something, but I feel it’s only a minor victory.

  • I agree that, although one or more minor skirmishes may have resulted in our favour, the main war is not anywhere near won.

    Apocalypse above makes a good point: we ought to think about telling people – and ourselves! – how to get through what’s comiong next. (Gordon Brown has of course just __re-announced__ £100 billion to “help LEDCs with Climate Change”…)

    But what it really is, is that I expect a lot of us are simply exhausted…. other ordinary normal buggers, which is to say: those who don’t seriously blog and don’t fell the unrgent need to save the effing world, and can’t imagine why people like us spend (up to) hours a day agonising over a keyboard for no money, can’t imagine what it takes out of you.

    It bloody takes it out of me, I can tell you. It’s not easy, and I was never a natural essay-writer: it arrived in my old age, with wisdom and skill with words, and knowing what was what about the world.

    You know the feeling, you sort of give the impression that you can dash off a dusted-and-fusted essay, just like that, but you can’t actually – it takes time in coming.

  • Nothing is won. There is no respite. What are you saying? The money printing machines have been thrown into high gear and we are now rattling so fast to destruction that our grip on reality has been shattered and it is coming up so fast. However the world is a big place and it will take a long time to smash it all up. Look how long it took for Zimbabwe. We are now headed into the big bang. Just because the river is very wide, dont think it aint moving very fast.

  • Well the first thing is to start spreading some easy rememberable words. As one example: “The enemy class” – is pure gold. The other thing is to maybe help each other’s out, start support groups, form a union… The third thing is to have a point or several of being. One of my own tasks was to learn better fluent English and even if it’s still crap it is much better today than when I started writing in English. I almost feel like I can apply for jobs in this country now. We all need something that keeps us going, for me this mostly is to tell people how incredibly stupid they are. Fire and brimstone is great entertainment.

  • it’s tired, for me anyway. but the ever increasing internet regulation may be something i start posting on more regularly. Bloggers have won a victory of sorts, which leads me to believe that the pace of net censorship will start to accelerate and most people won’t even notice so spreading the word will be important. Expect some more kiddie porn and terror stories in the news soon, if they don’t sneak something in under Michael Jackson’s coat tails. Oh look! GCHQ have just recruited a load of ‘ex-hackers’ to help fend off the Russians and the Chinese.

  • There’s only so much that people have to say. There’s only so many times the same points can be made- more government interference, ooh, terrible. And so on.

    The problem with blogging is that it’s not, except occasionally Guido, primary news. It’s not investigative journalism, or reportage. It’s all, or most of it, comment on the mainstream press. Largely by people with no influence, outside the Enemy Class and thus politically irrelevant. And it’s done for free, so the opportunity costs keep mounting up.

    It’s like art on the internet. When I first started, I’d post a picture to Usenet and be thrilled to bits that people replied and said they liked it. Then I started a website and was thrilled that I had visitors and would eagerly check how many hits I’d had today and so on.

    Then it gets old. Their needs to be some growth; some feeling that one is further onwards than one was last year, going somewhere, and so on. And I think that’s bound to affect bloggers, who have to keep churning out content. But blogs don’t really go anywhere. They just keep doing the same thing. They can’t really expand because they are a net cost; they don’t make any money. They’re not self-sustaining. So once the thrill of being looked at by people you don’t know wears off, where’s the incentive?

    The natural next step is a “new media”; a genuine news-invesigative-comment thing that can actually earn money, fund journalism, and challenge the MSM. That means, instead of writing a blog post complaining about what ASH have demanded (for instance) as reported in the Daily Mail, going out and demanding interviews and doorstepping them and putting the video on youtube. That is, doing what journalism is, and what the new newspapers did hundreds of years ago- made themselves relevant. Can the blogosphere make that leap? It needs to to have a purpose beyond being a ranting platform. And to do that, it needs to find a way to make money.

    People get tired of things that earn nothing and have significant opportunity cost. That’s just human nature. The British blogosphere needs to find its porpoise.

  • Maybe group blogs are the way forward. Ian is quite right about the money, and not many people (myself included) have the means to do proper investigative reporting on their own, but in collaboration with others it might not seem such a burden, and possibly the social element would be reward enough. The blogs are important, a year ago I did not believe there was a political ideology outside the Lib/Lab Con and had become quite disenfranchised. It is possible that without the blogosphere I would have never heard of libertarians and certainly would not have heard their arguments; there must be more like me who have yet to be reached.

  • I think Ian B has got it there. Trouble is, we have no money, and therefore no time can be made to go out, learn how to be story-breaking-journos and do the real Enemy-Class-destruction stuff – such as Guido managed … a couple of times in, what? Five years? Six years?

    At least we’re light-years ahead of the Fascist Left in the UK – look at their debacles over Labourlist and suchlike: it seemed that only John Prescott, an unlikely blogger, scored any successes at all.

  • i was up till 3 in the morning and felt a bit tired then the next night i had 4 friends round and we dont not sleep out for 5 mins i felt fine for two day they 3 days later i felt really really really tired so i dont get it

  • i love sleeping missing my m8 tom

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