Keir Martland on Good Morning Dublin


Apologies for the poor quality, but the interview was over the telephone. The host of Good Morning Dublin has very kindly uploaded the interview onto Soundcloud. This is what Dubliners tuning into 103.2 this morning heard at about 10:30. I am on fine form, if somewhat rambling at times.

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9 comments

  • Meyer's Fusionist

    I have to ask, from a Paleolibertarian’s point of view, would it not bother you Keir if the UK remained in the EU as I thought that the fight for small or minimal government was central to the libertarian’s way of thinking (both Fusionist and Paleolibertarian) and I would have thought that exiting the EU would be the start of that?

    • The fact that Tony Blair wants us in the EU suggests it is indeed a necessary condition. The fact that Boris Johnson wants us out suggests that it is not an individually sufficient condition.

      Of course, the EU is bad insofar as it is unaccountable itself and acts as a fig leaf for national governments themselves. But the EU is probably preferable to US suzerainty, which appears to be the only other option on the table at the moment.

      Furthermore, the Vote Leave campaign is rotten to the core and is run by people who seem to want us to stay in the EU at any rate.

      For the avoidance of doubt, I believe in national sovereignty and the nation state, more so than most libertarians who seem to dislike the idea of an organic nation. The only problem is that national sovereignty is not on offer in this bloody referendum. What is on offer is a choice between Brussels and Washington; a punch in the face or a kick in the bollocks. Which do you prefer, as a fusionist?

      • Meyer's Fusionist

        I agree that the Vote Leave campaign is rotten to the core but unfortunately, we can only make the best of a really bad situation. It’s like the Welsh Assembly, it’s rotten to the core as Labour only lost one seat even though they lost on average 7% of the vote but the fact that UKIP (even though led by Hamilton) is in there with 7 seats serves as a silver lining and that there someone in there who will give me a voice.

        With regards to the choice between Brussels and Washington, it depends on a certain point of view. For example, in the EU, there are insiders saying that the EU could collapse if it keeps on the way it is going, that serves as a crumb of comfort for me but preferably would want to come out of it now so that we can avoid possibly the greatest collapse that could have a nasty effect on the UK. In the USA, it would depend on the government itself. If it were the Democrats in power with Hillary Clinton as President, then I would be fearful as she is power mad and very much a neocon like Bush Sr and Jr. I actually believe that she does want the UK to become the 51st state should we leave the EU. However, if it was Donald Trump, I would be more hopeful as I actually believe he wants us out of the EU and for us to fend for ourselves with a little help from his trade proposals to help us trade with everyone else especially the commonwealth.

        As a fusionist, I see that it we have to look after ourselves and seek new opportunities that will benefit us in the long term whilst making sure that we preserve liberty and freedom from the big state.

      • Why should the choice be alignment with either Brussels or Washington, D.C.? Why can’t Britain pursue strategic neutrality along the lines of Switzerland?

        • Tom, do you really think that
          a) Washington will permit that?
          b) our own politicians will?

          • Not at all on both counts, but we were not aligned to either of these prior to the Second World War and I see no reason why we must be in the future.

            Realistically, I accept it will have to be Brussels AND Washington, D.C. for the next few years at least, even if the referendum result favours BREXIT, and we will also remain tied to the Single Market, whether we like it or not. I’m just saying that in the long-run we needn’t have to limit ourselves to these options.

            I agree that much depends on who is in power and who is influential. A vote for BREXIT, if it occurs, will just be the ‘end of the beginning’. It is a mandate to negotiate secession from the EU, a process that will take many years. It would also be, I hope, the beginning of gradual but significant change in politics in this country in the sense that we will start governing ourselves again and might one day be able to break out of the Brussels – Washington, D.C. mould.

  • A good media performance and a good defence here.

  • Enjoyed thoroughly. Excellent. I just didn’t agree with the Obama comment or see how your not caring about Obama running interference related to paleolibertarianism. Otherwise, splendid. (Don’t we have any cockney accents here?)

    • I’m from a much more civilised part of the UK, so we don’t have cockney accents 🙂

      I have no partisan or racial dislike of Obama. When the balance sheet is drawn up, he probably hasn’t been the worst President in US history, and certainly in terms of foreign policy has been less hawkish than the 2008 and 2012 alternatives. I don’t like the Special Relationship and so when Obama makes what appear to be fairly obvious comments on the likely trade negotiations post-“Brexit” I don’t have a visceral anti-Obama reaction and don’t feel the need to bring up his race.

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