Clarke discusses the Tory Leadership “Fiasco”

Ken Clarke, for whom I have an enormous amount of respect, has been caught on camera giving the most sober analysis of the Conservative Leadership Election out there. He concedes Leadsom could be alright, admits he hasn’t a clue what Crabb stands for, and calls May “a bloody difficult woman.” Most interesting are his comments on Michael Gove: 

I remember having a discussion once about something we should do in Syria or Iraq and he was so wild that I remember exchanging looks with Liam Fox., who’s much more right-wing than me. Liam was raising eyebrows. I think with Michael as Prime Minister we’d go to war with at least three countries at once.

Now, by right-wing, he obviously means hawkish, which is not an acceptable definition of right-wing in my book. But the fact that by Clarke’s assessment, Michael Gove is the most hawkish of the leadership contenders is very interesting indeed. Of course, Gove has an entirely just reputation for being a Blairite (which Theresa May has somehow avoided), but if Gove’s foreign policy stances are more aggressive than even Liam Fox’s, then we should hope and pray that we don’t get Gove.

Regarding his comments on Andrea Leadsom and whether she is sincere about leaving the European Union, I am not entirely sure I agree with his assessment. Leadsom may personally and privately believe all manner of things. She may personally have preferred that the vote was to remain in the EU. She may personally believe in Gay Marriage. She may personally be a communist for all I care. What matters in politics is how you position yourself, and Leadsom has positioned herself as the most Eurosceptic and culturally conservative contender for the leadership of the Conservative Party (and a look back at her old, unedited blog, which she has not yet deleted, suggests that she is indeed very right-wing, and by my definition of the term!). She has not only positioned herself as the right-wing Tory, but she also has support from other right-wing Tories like Iain Duncan Smith and the anti-interventionist John Baron, along with a number UKIP backers. She seems alright to me. However, for the avoidance of doubt, this is not an endorsement; she has enough of those already.



  • I have less respect for this traitorous toerag than I have for something I might scrape off my shoe.

    I also have little doubt that this “gaffe” was thoroughly deliberate and a dirty trick intended to boost May and assist the “grandee” stitchup which is currently being managed by Clarke, Heseltine and their EUphile chums.

    Clarke has spent his life attempting to, as he once put it, make Parliament a local council chamber under the EU, and will stop at nothing to derail Brexit. Foisting the May creature on us is part of that.

    In other words, this was staged. He’s virtually reading a list of bullet points.

    • I agree. I have long said that if by some miracle we vote in a referendum to leave the EU, the political class will find a way to “explain”, and subsequently ignore the result. Nothing I’ve seen or heard in the last 2 weeks has caused me to change my opinion.

      • Yes, this is roughly the way my thoughts are going as well.

        I think it likely that they will now put Plan B into action and engineer a ‘Brexit-lite’ outcome that will put us in pretty much the same position as before, with some sort of ‘associate’ relationship with the EU.

        However, at the back of my mind is the nagging thought that they might contrive to throw the whole thing out altogether. I am in no doubt that some of them are actively conspiring to this end.

        This is one of those situations that calls for the “do something” mentality. We don’t need experts – we voted to leave the EU to get away from technocracy, not embrace it. This is a moment for a leader, somebody who will trigger the Article 50 or (preferably) just repeal the legislation and have done with it. Each day we delay by not doing either of these things erodes the mandate established by the referendum.

    • Agreed, I hope that vile woman stays far away from the position of PM.

  • Mr Maitland–your respect for Clarke does you no credit. The fat red-wine swilling cunt is scum of the first order. Whatever shite he spews is of zero interest. Other than to note that a purge of cultural marxist scum in British society is long overdue. He is correct only that they Darling Dud of May is a POS every bit as vile as Clarke himself.

    • I think the problem might be that Mr Maitland has met Mr Clarke – I have seen the photographic evidence somewhere – and Mr Clarke is probably a very nice man, so he is personally conflicted.

      Once you are acquainted with somebody, even fleetingly, you then see them as a human being and we all know that nobody is all-good or all-bad.

      I have the same conflict. About 20-odd years ago, in a previous life, when I was about Mr Maitland’s age, and young and precocious like he is (!), I met (and knew some of) the major Labour figures (I was on the other side of the fence politically). They were mostly nice people.

      My recollections of a few of them (I’m not name-dropping, these are mostly impressions from a handful of meetings/encounters):

      Tony Blair – genuinely nice man, very sincere. Charismatic, articulate, intelligent. Excellent presentation skills.

      Ken Livingstone – decent man, very caring and sincere.

      Jeremy Corbyn – again, nice man, genuinely caring, brave, principled, passionate and sincere – all the qualities you’d expect of him now.

      Frank Dobson – very nice man, as I recall. Very funny too.

      I remember hundreds of other decent people I knew. They were like a family to me. I still half-regret leaving them behind.

      It is possible to have conflicting thoughts (and feelings) about these people. They ARE traitors. I am personally in no doubt about that. Their actions are wholly treasonous and I think there should be trials and firing squads.

      At the same time, they are mostly just regular people when all is said and done, and in most cases they are doing what they think is right. That doesn’t excuse them, though. They should still face justice.

  • I know I’m repeating myself (just wait until I start on all the “I told you so!” comments) but there will be no Brexit. I’m genuinely bemused that anyone who has spent any time studying British and European politics, as have the people who comment here, would imagine otherwise.

    • I’m not so pessimistic. This is a significant moment in history.

  • 1. Martland, not Maitland; I’m used to my first name being spelt in all manner of incorrect ways, but this is a first. It also makes me sound Scottish, which is a bit too exotic for me. (I am 6.25% Welsh though…)
    2. Met Clarke after I had formed my opinion of him; the meeting only served to confirm that opinion. He was a good Chancellor, a sharp-mind, and a Grammar School boy. We all know his faults, but he was a great man, just as Thatcher was a great man. The fact that I disagree with them on all that matters is irrelevant.

    • Apologies for the name error.

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