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Maybe nothing can now be done for these people


Michael Winning

I meant the hoddies, not the woman and her daughter. Labour’s artificially-created client-underclass may contain many individuals for whom there will be no earthly use. It is a tragic and useless waste of human potential.

And ive just found this here.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100011721/24-hour-drinking-is-not-to-blame-for-broken-britain/

I,ll reprint it just in carse, I’m sure the man won’t mind. The blog master says it should be in red to show its been lifted.

Ed West Politics Last updated: September 29th, 2009

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Well, this is possibly Labour’s last ever party conference in power, so I was expecting some big gimmicks, but Gordon Brown’s attack on 24-hour drinking is weak.

The move will be part of a wider package of crime measures that the Prime Minister will unveil in his crucial pre-election party conference speech. He has previously indicated that he is unhappy with parts of the licensing law changes that were brought in while Tony Blair was Prime Minister but has stopped short of overhauling the legislation.

As a teenager the one cause I really felt passionate about was not global warming (as we called it back then), third world poverty or the Rwandan genocide (which I don’t even remember) – it was 24-hour drinking. I hated the fact that all pubs shut at 11 and we then had to find a nightclub, queue for ages, and then pay over the odds to stand around somewhere so loud you wouldn’t hear Ian Paisley if he was standing next to you. Lloyd George ruined my teenage years.

Conservatives, who win most arguments through the law of unintended consequences, were strangely averse to the obvious fact that our First World War-era licensing laws only encouraged people to drink quickly and then head to even boozier venues. It was left to New Labour, in a rare moment of liberalism, to change the law.

The phrase “24-hour drinking” is misleading, creating the image of some Oliver Reed-style epic bender – often it just means theatre-goers popping in for a couple or people choosing to stay in their local past 11 rather than making a night of it. And it does not make alcohol-related social problems any worse – it doesn’t make them hugely better, but it doesn’t make them worse. In fact the number of venues open 24-hours is tiny, and the number of pubs open past 1 am is not huge, either.

The Government knows this, of course, but the real problems with alcohol are too difficult to deal with. The initial inconvenience is that too many city centres are dependent on alcohol – if they raise the duty on alcohol or arrested drunks wholesale or did anything to reduce the number of rubbish chain pubs then they may as well evacuate Liverpool or Newcastle.

Secondly, and more importantly, too many members of the violent community are also part of Labour’s 5-million-strong welfare army, people who do not pay fines because they know the authorities won’t chase them, and who do not modify their bad behaviour because they know the state won’t kick them out of their taxpayer-provided homes. This is why “drink Asbos” won’t work:

The measure will be part of a wider package of anti-social behaviour policies that the Prime Minister will unveil. It includes “drink anti-social behaviour orders” being extended to force courts to consider imposing a Drinking Banning Order against anyone convicted of a crime who was under the influence of alcohol.

The Drink Asbos will give magistrates the power to bar problem drinkers from bars and off-licences, Mr Brown will say.

Parents of any child guilty of anti-social behaviour will be given a parenting contract and where they refuse to comply with them, their benefits will be stopped. He will also announce a four-fold increase in the number of families covered by ‘family intervention projects.’

He will say: “These are binding contracts which require people to take one to one support or lose their benefits. We will double the number of these family intervention projects so that for the 50,000 most chaotic families and their 100,000 children there will be clear rules, and clear punishments if they don’t comply.”

But Asbos have been a terrible failure – half of them are breached and most of the time the authorities simply give the hooligan another “last chance” warning, like some ineffective and weak teacher. On the other hand they are genuinely illiberal and can and have been used by the authorities to persecute the merely eccentric or children with serious disorders.

This issue is relevant to the suicide of Fiona Pilkington, driven to her death by yobs while the police did nothing (for fear of “criminalising” the bullies by sending them to prison), because even if the authorities did intervene to stop her ordeal, they would still be bound by the law to re-house Miss Pilkington’s tormentors, the Simmons family, and scumbags everywhere know that.

If Labour really wanted to get tough on anti-social behaviour, whether committed drunk or sober, it would change the law so that the state no longer had to find a home for criminals among ordinary, decent people. But then, you wouldn’t want people to actually take personal responsibility for their behaviour, would you?

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New inside look at OCR ICT education…….. …..First hand experience!


Peter Davis

I did this last year at my school, and you could just tell that this task was thought up by the government.  May I point out that the task was to create a video in Windows Movie Maker about recycling.

I think that, well yes, its fair enough that we have to make a video, as we would learn the skills to be able to do it…..But do we have to do it on ‘Recycling’?

Anyway, this was my submission for OCR nationals Unit 23. It got a very high mark, and it took me 20 minutes. I hope you enjoy it … or maybe not.

Yes, you saw it: this is what your children do in year-9 at secondary school it the UK (for foreign readers, this is 13/14 year-olds.)

Blogeditor says:-

Something to do with this stuff would have been more fun…

(…but most of the poor buggers don’t even know what these things are, let alone that they might have even existed.)

‘Ere we go, ‘ere we go, ‘ere we go…


What shall we do with the drunken sailor, eh?

David Davis

Samizdata reckons drunken sailors are all right, since they spend their own cash and not that of others. But….

The bishop , even though it’s one you have never heard of, tells it to you like it is, about alcohol…bishops of course know all about this. Yep, experts. (Gerald Warner has the right idea, totally.)

I have to say, I didn’t know  there was a “Bishop of Chelmsford” – did you?

What on earth has been going on behind our backs?

There is a case for this stuff being _not_ newsworthy


UPDATE2:-  __AND__   is this all that he can pull? Saddo, handsome guy, you can do better than that…what about yer missiz? (Much better crumpet.)

 

Yeh it was late and she was game and, er ....

Yeh it was late and she was game and, er ....

 

 

 

 

_APART_ from other considerations, it features one private tragedy in the life of a Human Being, for whom the only justification and reason for an act was the decision to commit it. Borat-casting it benefits nobody else.

(I can’t remove the underlining sorry)

David Davis

I mean this sort of stuff, here. Here, we have a moderately competent foot ball-ist (I suppose?) who has merely done what it’s widely known that these people do, since after they have scored three goals and they can’t then do ought-else, they go and get drunk outside an expensive pub in somewhere called “Lond-on”. Sometimes it’s “Manchest-er” or “Liver-Pool”. Same difference. But “Lond-on” ensures faster publicity.

Come on, get out more, lighten up: the poor bastards have got to get rid of their money somehow?

The trouble is, the continual reporting of this will cause more of it, and crowd important people like Rutger Engels off the Wireless Tele Vision. Everybody knows that televising of a drink being drunk will cause people to “drink more” – just read old-man-Rutger for the newest lowdown. So, televising a foot ball-ist called Ashley Cole laying waste to the Met outside a bar will cause people to do the same, no?

The Stalinist terror-drink-police will come for you next…


UPDATE:- Lots of useful links out, from The Devil, to other state fake-charities etc, specially those which castigate you for drinking more than you oughta on “at least one day a week”….disaster: all that excise tax-take, and they don’t even thank you.

David Davis

….arriving at a “supermarket” or “off-licence” near you. They’ve done the pubs, kicking them into the bloody dust, so now it’s the turn of the “middle class professionals”. I wonder which fake charity staffed by State-sponsored-scumbags is behind this one? Obviously not a real one then, they have better things to do.

And here’s the Beeboids, direct. And why do nasty gestapoid-Gramsco-Marxians always, always always get so het up about “strong lager”? Eh? Eh? Who ya’-lookin’ at then? Gorra-problem?

Destroying Britain on purpose – The Idea: New LA series – dispatches from a dying country, number 1. The pub.


Vicki Woods (strange woman, odd views for an existential conservative, but sometimes she writes well, is, er, now, er, “helping to run a village pub”…)

David Davis

(Credits to Dr Sean Gabb, author of a book entitled “Dispatches from…..” You may even still be able to buy that book by going to his page.)

If you set out to utterly destroy a nation – nay, a culture, for that’s really what we are – without actively resorting to terror-Police and NKVD and Gestapo tactics openly  – at least not quite yet… – then what you do is this:-

You can’t storm all its houses using the army or the police like Stalin did in the 20s/30s: the Police are on your side since you pick them, pay them and brainwash them, but the Services are not – you can’t pick them….yet, so you can’t brainwash them, as they are the wrong guys. So, what can you do?

You can, via the “Long March Through The Institutions”, constrict a cadre of activists who know instinctively for Gramsican reasons that they must get into “positions of power”.

Then, you can set out to carefully and deliberately erase all its icons, its defining characteristics that help bond its people together socially, its customs (better if they are really really old – the erasing causes more glue to dissolve without people really seeing how or why) its ceremonies, and all its little details. If you are a Fabianazi, this is OK even if it takes some time. You know it will work in the end, you have all the time in the world, and you have also set up an “education” “system”, which does the following things:-

(a) looks as if it is “free”,

(b) looks as if it “benefits” the “underprivileged”,

(c) looks as if it’s well-founded using real hard knowledge,

(d) looks as if everyone can “succeed”,

(e) tells everyone how wonderful you are to “give” it to them,

(f) rewrites their nation’s historiography (while they watch the TV progs your friends have created for them as anaesthetics.)

At the same time you make it harder for people to avoid the said system – even though you can’t yet close down schools by force that are “outside the system” – which is to say, other people’s private property. But you make jolly sure that you f*** up the curriculum something proper anyway, so you increase the probability of turning out a majority of radicalised pre-socialist children, who will not know how to value and venerate the things that you are going to set out to destroy. One of these is the “Pub”.

Most foreign readers of this blog will know what a “Pub” is. A “Public House” is really actually a private house, in which the owner graciously permits strangers to come in and buy each other drinks, in the warm, and have a smoke, a gossip and a dust-up occasionally. You can be (and are) barred for transgressing his rules, as it’s his “house”. The food, if any, since nuts, crisps and pork scratchings have always been more than sufficient, is really irrelevant, and is in fact a post-modern reaction to celebrity “tele-Chefs”, nearly all of whom are lefties except for Anthony Worral-Thompson who seems to have been put out to grass, and to the post-modern fashion for “families” to go to Pubs – a weird idea.

I think that the “Pub” was the place in default of the Witanagemot or the Thing, where the Men (of somewhere) went to Discuss Matters. Travellers were graciously allowed in too, a fine and advanced modern liberal idea. Culture could therefore spread rapidly, even before “Posts”, then News “Papers”, Wireless Radio, Wireless Tele Vision, or the Inter “Net”.

This is why “Pubs” are under attack – not just from the high taxation of alcohol for all sorts of spurious reasons supposedly connected with “health” (we are their Farm Animals, you see.) They are also attacked through the phantasm of the promoted image of the unfriendliness of a “drinking den”, peddled by the Enemy Class which sees this object as a disease of the “Working Class” – which has to be eradicated. Furthermore, If I was a ZanuLieborg Stalinist, I would attack pubs since that is where people might go to mutter bad things about me, together, with others whom they know well, over a pint or three, and thhus secure in the company of their own mutual trust. This cannot be allowed.

So the “Pub” has got to go. If it’s converted into a “gastro” object, run as part of a chian by one of your “party backers”, to be frequented not by regulars but by itinerant tourists (much safer, see last para) then that partly plugs a tax-hole, and makes out that the Fabianazis pretend to understand what “the people” want.

If it truly closes, then that’s a benefit for Stalinism as well. You’ve shoved a nail up the nose of a culture that you hate, despise and want dead, by removing something it needed and valued, without knowing even how to articulate why. By further isolating your peaceful and conservative enemies, who have never voted for you and never would know how to want to, you can further demoralise them. Win-win.

Right now as I write, we are coming into the “Police breathalysing Season”. This in today’s Britain is now the traditional season in which a given number of pubs tries to stay open and not go bankrupt, while the British Terror-Police, as the opposing team, try to see how many people they can arrest for driving out of pub car parks after having ordered a drink. The fact that out of about 800-odd people a year killed on the roads in situations where alcohol is inplicated, about 70% are drunk pedestrians, is always ignored, and never stated.

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