RBS: interesting and sad, but inevitable

David Davis

I mean, what is the point, if you are a Stalinist, of nationalising an enormous bank, which is still operating mechanically as a bank that does banking thingies, if you can’t use it to influence free property transactions your way, and push people about? 

The Landed Underclass wins, again, the Daily Targeting Grand Challenge Cup. Either he does nothing all day, or else he gets up earlier than I do.

Meanwhile, in the madhouse, the political grandstanding continues. Why, instead of all that, since they are so kind and upright and want to “protect the integrity of the honours system” to assuage their pretend-rage, don’t the Westmonster buggere show what they are _really_ made of? Take away fred goodwin’s knighthood? My trousers they will! It could happen to them next!

Why don’t they just throw poor Fred’s wife and children to the lions in the arena, and make him watch? They’ve done almost as much already.

RBS: The Paul Myners/Harriet Harman/Derek Wanless thingy smells ever more fishy.

UPDATE:- Ooooooooooooh, look at this one too! Guido again. the sheer brass neck, the czhutzpah (if that’s how it’s spelt – I have no clue what czhutzpah is, maybe it’s an African cooking sauce) of these stalinist graspers just beggars the imagination.

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I smell a rat. I see it floating in the air. (Hat tip Guido, for Guido-guiding us to here.)

It seems that socialists will always be found, in the end, with their hands in the till. Be they ever so compassionate towards Working People – or just “The People” – be they ever so Fabian, so – well – Toynbee-esque, they can’t keep away from money, they simply can’t do it, it’s not in their nature, it’s like a magnet to them.

Perhaps it’s their institutional-amorality. They’re always gassing on about “capitalists” and their “worship of profit over people”. They trumpet their credentials to the rooftops: just read any article by Polly Toynbee for example, like this one.

(Pol) Pot calling kettle black, all over again, and again, and again….

Why can’t they just throw in the towel, stop pretending to want to “redistribute” other people’s legitimate property to those whom they purport to “represent”, and simply join the existing game?

Some may win: then they can be philanthropic without hurting others. This will be fine, and conservatives will not complain. We have done it for centuries. Then of course you die.

Some may not win, and some may even leave “out of the  money”. But that’s just life: so do we, and so have we also done for centuries. Then, after it’s all over, you die as well, even if you have failed first. It’s the rules of the game.

The stalinists don’t mind it happening to actors and actresses (many of whom they themselves f***, like JFK did) like that – so why not themselves? 


Harriet Harman, Sir Fred Goodwin, pensions, law and contract. The Army speaks. A suitable update from ARRSE

UPDATE2:- Dear old Legiron. Much better writer than I.

UPDATE1:- Here were our previous thoughts about Sir Fred and the fragrant Harriet.

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This part of the thread from here, on ARRSE, is instructive:-

Post Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:08 am

She needs to be very careful about a Court of Public Opinion
If she does listen to it she might not only find herself out of a job sharpish but she and her mates losing their gold plated pensions and expense packages aswell
Funny how public opinion now suits as stated by Old Snowy plenty of other things are desired by the public but we won’t get 
They fought tooth and nail to stop the public finding out about their pensions etc and such othert things as Iraq and WMD’s 
I saw a report that stated he had paid into the pension for 30 years starting with bank of Yorkshire and Clydesdale Bank so who is she to take it away from him?
The Goverment wil rake in tax from it and also he wil have paid plenty of tax over the years as well    

But whilst they kick off about this it stops what a p1ss poor job they are doing off the front page

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:09 am

Apologies, but I think Harman’s drivel is worth repeating as one of the most outrageously stupid remarks of the century (so far):    

“… but it’s not enforceable in the court of public opinion and that’s where the Government steps in.”

Notwithstanding that this shows the most staggering ignorance of how the country should be governed, isn’t it amazing that she’s suddenly so interested in public opinion, to the point of proposing a shameful piece of opportunistic legislation when it might earn the gobment a few cheap points — but somehow forgot the importance of public opinion when sending the nation into an illegal war?

For the last few years, especially since Bush was elected for the second time in the US, I’ve had an increasing sense that watching UK and US politicians is like looking through a distorting mirror. It seems more and more like watching children playing at being politicians. They open their mouths and the most unbelievable, ill-considered, illogical sh1t just pours out.

Yeah, I’m pi55ed off with Goodwin and the other greedy swine, but the government is at root responsible for this, by inadequate regulation, by mindless boosterism of unsustainable economic growth and by its pathetic and ill-thought-out response to the crisis. Goodwin is a symptom more than a cause.

And where the hell does Mandelson, of all people (“intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich”, remember?) get off by giving righteous lectures? 

They are barmy to be such spineless, clueless hypocrites, and barmier still to think we haven’t noticed.

What are we going to do about these ba5tards? How do the adults reclaim the reins of power?

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:26 am

The whole sorry interview is here:    


Start at 35mins 15 secs in.

There are not enough adjectives in the English language to describe how loathsome she is. Proof once again that this gubment think they are above the law and will do anything and say anything as long as it scores popular point with the voters.
When the history books are writen in a few years time, people will wonder how we managed to vote these jokers in threetimes!

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:31 am

Right said Fred (in “Harriet Harman, British State-Lynch-Mobdriver v. Royal Bank of Scotland plc Contracts Department”)

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It says in The Landed Underclass that The Telegraph says that the “government” is “prepared to change the Law” to stop Sir Fred Goodwin getting his contractually-agreed pension. Just look at this terrifyingly dangerous utterance:-

But Ms Harman, Labour’s deputy leader, said that all necessary steps would be taken if the 50 year old would not do the “honourable” thing. (my emphasis – ed.)

“Sir Fred should not be counting on being £650,000 a year better off as a result of this because it is not going to happen,” she told BBC1’s Andrew Marr show.

“The Prime Minister has said it is not acceptable and therefore it will not be accepted. It might be enforceable in a court of law this contract but it’s not enforceable in the court of public opinion and that’s where the Government steps in.”

Ms Harman declined to say exactly what action could be taken but reports this week have suggested a special Act of Parliament was being considered by Downing Street as a last resort.

It is a dangerous thing, that any government, after Magna Carta, does not have respect for Law. Talk of “public opinion” and “The People” is always a dead-giveaway about Nazis lefty tyrannical tendencies.  All outfits that behave in this way should be treated as deeply suspect nasty fascist lefty Nazis.

Sir Fred Goodwin, although probably as culpable as any trough-pigging banker who dined out for years on States’ funny-money, is entitled, as a Sovereign Individual, to keep what free contracts have allowed to him. Specially as Guido has pointed out that Lord Myners knew about it in advance and the sums involved are nugatory.

This is a clear case of shamelessly but unjustifiably trying to take the high-moral-ground, but the thoughpiggers of ZanuLieBorg – who have pissed away the money, and also incidentally robbed millions of people of hundreds of billions of their own, fully-legally-obtained, and paid-for, “private pension pots”, to pay for a clientariat-votariat for themselves.

We all now have to work till we die. Sir Fred’s £700,000 is the least of our worries. I hope he gets a highly-paid job with the IMF and screws Harriet Harman (metaphorically – I for one would not even “escort”  her, if she paid me.)